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April 21, 1860
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April 21, I860.]
PUNCH, OR THE LONDON CHARIVARI.
INTERESTING INTELLIGENCE.
Small Boy (to respectable and extremely proper-looking personage).
“ Here y’ are, Guv’nor ! Sportin’ Telegraft a penny ! ’as got hall the latest
’ticJdars ’bout the Mill atween Tom Sayers and the Benicia Bo-oy l ”
endowing model lodging-houses for the poor of the county in which
the estate was situate. Mr. Potter seconded the motion, but
regretted that the Honourable Member had fixed the amount so high;
and he reserved to himself the right to amend in Committee. Mr.
Disraeli said that he should not struggle against the principle of the
Biil; but, he had glanced at the schedules, and saw that they omitted
many Liberal landowners’ names which ought to have been inserted,
and it was evident that there had been some Esoteric Manipulation
practised. Lord John Russell denied that he had seen the schedules,
and urged that he had no interest in the matter, as the Bedeord pro-
perty, originally derived from the Church, had been given by the House
to the IVesleyan Methodists, except that part which Parliament had
handed over to the British Museum. The Reverend Mr. Bellew
said that a provision ought to be made for a Church to be attached to
each set of model lodging-houses. The Reverend Mr. Punshon did
not know why provision should be made for a Church. Had they
taker, away Cathedral and other Church property only to restore it by
a side-wind ? The Reverend Mr. Bezaleel Gittins said that he
should oppose any such scheme unless it included a chapel for his own
sect, the Primitive Bedlamites. Mr. Roebuck said he had foreseen
this sort of row, when the Bill for admitting parsons of all sorts to
Parliament was before them; and he wished the Clergy would hold
their tongues, and not keep such keen eyes upon worldly things. The
Reverend Mr. Newdegate said that the spiritual advice of such a
person as Mr. Roebuck was invaluable; but, for all that, he should
take his own course, and demand, in Committee, that Baptist chapels
should share the proposed endowment. Sir R. Cobden opposed the
motion. He had always been an aristocrat, though people might not
have thought so, and he always would be one. This was robbery, and
the mover and seconder of the Bill ought to be hanged. He had
received a letter from the private secretary to the King of the United
States, in which the evils of a confiscatory policy were ably pointed
out. It had led to the Revolution in the States, which ended in the
establishment of the present despotism there. Mr. Bentinck said
that Sir R. Cobden was a fanatical alarmist; things were going on
very well in England; and when they had swept away all the feudal
rags of rank and title, and abolished primogeniture, we should be a
very great nation. After a few words of reply from Mr. Cuffey, leave
was given to bring in the Bill.
A Debate in Committee on the Bill for the Compulsory Sale of
Silver Plate and Purchase of Albata Substitutes, occupied the rest of
the evening, and an amendment moved by Sir Obadiah Elkington
for the substitution of Electro-plate for Albata was rejected by 196 to
53. The principle that no person had aright to keep silver for domestic
purposes when the State wanted it for coinage, was affirmed, and the
Bill passed through Committee.
PUNCH’S ESSENCE OF POSSIBLE PARLIAMENT.
1863. April 13. Monday. The Lords sat for ten minutes only, and
merely as formal protest against the resolution, carried in the House
of Commons by Mr. Ernest Jones, to the effect that the House of
Lords was effete, and should be ignored for the future. Lord Eitzedwyn
(late Mr. E. James), the new Lord Chancellor, took his seat on the
Woolsack. Dr. Spurgeon, Bishop of St. Albans, was sworn. He
was introduced by the Bishops of Oxford and Exeter.
In the Commons, in answer to Mr. Buckstone, Sir N. T. Hicks
said that the Government had no intention of subsidising the Operas.
They were amusements for the rich, and the rich might support them;
but a Government Bill would be introduced for conferring pensions on
old, infirm, or retired Organ-Grinders. In reply to Mr. Cox, of Fins-
bury, Sir John Bright said that the Queen’s Ministers were not to
be dictated to as to any Bills they might introduce ■ that the Convicts’
Enfranchisement Bill would be produced when they thought proper,
and not till then; and if the Honourable Member asked impertinent
questions, it might be for him (Sir John Bright) to consider whether
he would not impeach him. The Honourable Christy Minstrell
stated, in answer to Mr. Potter, that the medal to be given to all the
men who had been on Strike was nearly ready, and would have been
done long since, but that the artist whom the Association insisted on
the Government's employing had been so incessantly tipsy.
Mr. Cuffey then moved for leave to introduce his Bill for the Con-
fiscation of Real Estates. He spoke very temperately, and said that
he had no vulgar hatred for the landed interest, many of whose mem-
bers were very amiable people; but he could not blind himself to the
fact that here was the Marquis of Westminster, with a rent-roll of
£300,000 a-year, while there were thousands of persons who had no
residence at all, and did not know any morning whether they should
sleep in a bed that night. This was manifestly unjust. He was not a
violent Reformer, and did not wish to attempt any Utopian schemes,
and his Bill was of a very limited character. He had caused the
schedules to be prepared with great care; and he proposed that any
English estate producing more than £10,000 a-year should be sold, and
the money placed in the People’s Land Bank. The late proprietor, and
his widow, should receive £5 per cent, of the interest of the purchase
money, for life; and the rest should be employed in building and
Tuesday. The Lords did not sit. The Commons sat for a short
time only, when a great number of petitions were presented in favour
of the Bill for Abolishing the National Debt.
Wednesday. At the usual morning sitting, the Chancellor of the
Exchequer, Mr. Whitewash, who was received with cheers,
apologised for his absence from the House on the preceding evening.
He had been so much occupied in getting ready for his own hearing
before the Insolvent Court that he had had little time for the nation,
but now that he was discharged cured {laughter) he hoped to be able to
acquit himself creditably. The statement was very warmly cheered by
the House. The Chancellor of the Exchequer then stated that
he hoped to be able to manage without troubling the House with a
Budget this year, but a balance-sheet would be laid before them. The
sale of Gibraltar to the French {hear, hear), and the sum that- had been
paid by America for the West Indian islands, had placed him in good
funds, and now that the army was disbanded, the reduction in the
estimates was very large. {Cheers.) As regarded the Abolition of the
National Debt, he went on to say that some difficulties had arisen, in
consequence of the Crown lawyers thinking that the holders of Ex-
chequer bills would perhaps be entitled to sue, if they were repudiated,
and his learned friend the Attorney-General (Sir Digby Seymour)
would therefore prepare a short Indemnity Act, by which such actions
would be rendered penal. {Cheers.) He certainly thought that the
Bank clerks ought not to be pensioned, but that it would be hard not
to afford them the means of living when the Bank was closed, and he
was endeavouring to make an arrangement with the Central Board, for
giving them employment in the new sewers. {Hear, hear.) He was
not prepared to say, at present, what would be done with the Bank
itself, but Sir E. T. Smith had made an offer for it, in order to erect
a Citizens’ Theatre, and he regretted not to see that Hon. Member in
the House at the moment, or he would tell him that he must come up a
peg or two with his bid. {Laughter?) He apologised ior troubling
the House at such length, but his absence had caused the current of
business to be dammed up {laughter), and now he had explained, things
would go on in future as right as a trivet and as neat as ninepence.
{Applause.)
Thursday. The Lords sat pro forma, and the new Bishop of St. j
Albans improved the time by preaching them a sermon of much
PUNCH, OR THE LONDON CHARIVARI.
INTERESTING INTELLIGENCE.
Small Boy (to respectable and extremely proper-looking personage).
“ Here y’ are, Guv’nor ! Sportin’ Telegraft a penny ! ’as got hall the latest
’ticJdars ’bout the Mill atween Tom Sayers and the Benicia Bo-oy l ”
endowing model lodging-houses for the poor of the county in which
the estate was situate. Mr. Potter seconded the motion, but
regretted that the Honourable Member had fixed the amount so high;
and he reserved to himself the right to amend in Committee. Mr.
Disraeli said that he should not struggle against the principle of the
Biil; but, he had glanced at the schedules, and saw that they omitted
many Liberal landowners’ names which ought to have been inserted,
and it was evident that there had been some Esoteric Manipulation
practised. Lord John Russell denied that he had seen the schedules,
and urged that he had no interest in the matter, as the Bedeord pro-
perty, originally derived from the Church, had been given by the House
to the IVesleyan Methodists, except that part which Parliament had
handed over to the British Museum. The Reverend Mr. Bellew
said that a provision ought to be made for a Church to be attached to
each set of model lodging-houses. The Reverend Mr. Punshon did
not know why provision should be made for a Church. Had they
taker, away Cathedral and other Church property only to restore it by
a side-wind ? The Reverend Mr. Bezaleel Gittins said that he
should oppose any such scheme unless it included a chapel for his own
sect, the Primitive Bedlamites. Mr. Roebuck said he had foreseen
this sort of row, when the Bill for admitting parsons of all sorts to
Parliament was before them; and he wished the Clergy would hold
their tongues, and not keep such keen eyes upon worldly things. The
Reverend Mr. Newdegate said that the spiritual advice of such a
person as Mr. Roebuck was invaluable; but, for all that, he should
take his own course, and demand, in Committee, that Baptist chapels
should share the proposed endowment. Sir R. Cobden opposed the
motion. He had always been an aristocrat, though people might not
have thought so, and he always would be one. This was robbery, and
the mover and seconder of the Bill ought to be hanged. He had
received a letter from the private secretary to the King of the United
States, in which the evils of a confiscatory policy were ably pointed
out. It had led to the Revolution in the States, which ended in the
establishment of the present despotism there. Mr. Bentinck said
that Sir R. Cobden was a fanatical alarmist; things were going on
very well in England; and when they had swept away all the feudal
rags of rank and title, and abolished primogeniture, we should be a
very great nation. After a few words of reply from Mr. Cuffey, leave
was given to bring in the Bill.
A Debate in Committee on the Bill for the Compulsory Sale of
Silver Plate and Purchase of Albata Substitutes, occupied the rest of
the evening, and an amendment moved by Sir Obadiah Elkington
for the substitution of Electro-plate for Albata was rejected by 196 to
53. The principle that no person had aright to keep silver for domestic
purposes when the State wanted it for coinage, was affirmed, and the
Bill passed through Committee.
PUNCH’S ESSENCE OF POSSIBLE PARLIAMENT.
1863. April 13. Monday. The Lords sat for ten minutes only, and
merely as formal protest against the resolution, carried in the House
of Commons by Mr. Ernest Jones, to the effect that the House of
Lords was effete, and should be ignored for the future. Lord Eitzedwyn
(late Mr. E. James), the new Lord Chancellor, took his seat on the
Woolsack. Dr. Spurgeon, Bishop of St. Albans, was sworn. He
was introduced by the Bishops of Oxford and Exeter.
In the Commons, in answer to Mr. Buckstone, Sir N. T. Hicks
said that the Government had no intention of subsidising the Operas.
They were amusements for the rich, and the rich might support them;
but a Government Bill would be introduced for conferring pensions on
old, infirm, or retired Organ-Grinders. In reply to Mr. Cox, of Fins-
bury, Sir John Bright said that the Queen’s Ministers were not to
be dictated to as to any Bills they might introduce ■ that the Convicts’
Enfranchisement Bill would be produced when they thought proper,
and not till then; and if the Honourable Member asked impertinent
questions, it might be for him (Sir John Bright) to consider whether
he would not impeach him. The Honourable Christy Minstrell
stated, in answer to Mr. Potter, that the medal to be given to all the
men who had been on Strike was nearly ready, and would have been
done long since, but that the artist whom the Association insisted on
the Government's employing had been so incessantly tipsy.
Mr. Cuffey then moved for leave to introduce his Bill for the Con-
fiscation of Real Estates. He spoke very temperately, and said that
he had no vulgar hatred for the landed interest, many of whose mem-
bers were very amiable people; but he could not blind himself to the
fact that here was the Marquis of Westminster, with a rent-roll of
£300,000 a-year, while there were thousands of persons who had no
residence at all, and did not know any morning whether they should
sleep in a bed that night. This was manifestly unjust. He was not a
violent Reformer, and did not wish to attempt any Utopian schemes,
and his Bill was of a very limited character. He had caused the
schedules to be prepared with great care; and he proposed that any
English estate producing more than £10,000 a-year should be sold, and
the money placed in the People’s Land Bank. The late proprietor, and
his widow, should receive £5 per cent, of the interest of the purchase
money, for life; and the rest should be employed in building and
Tuesday. The Lords did not sit. The Commons sat for a short
time only, when a great number of petitions were presented in favour
of the Bill for Abolishing the National Debt.
Wednesday. At the usual morning sitting, the Chancellor of the
Exchequer, Mr. Whitewash, who was received with cheers,
apologised for his absence from the House on the preceding evening.
He had been so much occupied in getting ready for his own hearing
before the Insolvent Court that he had had little time for the nation,
but now that he was discharged cured {laughter) he hoped to be able to
acquit himself creditably. The statement was very warmly cheered by
the House. The Chancellor of the Exchequer then stated that
he hoped to be able to manage without troubling the House with a
Budget this year, but a balance-sheet would be laid before them. The
sale of Gibraltar to the French {hear, hear), and the sum that- had been
paid by America for the West Indian islands, had placed him in good
funds, and now that the army was disbanded, the reduction in the
estimates was very large. {Cheers.) As regarded the Abolition of the
National Debt, he went on to say that some difficulties had arisen, in
consequence of the Crown lawyers thinking that the holders of Ex-
chequer bills would perhaps be entitled to sue, if they were repudiated,
and his learned friend the Attorney-General (Sir Digby Seymour)
would therefore prepare a short Indemnity Act, by which such actions
would be rendered penal. {Cheers.) He certainly thought that the
Bank clerks ought not to be pensioned, but that it would be hard not
to afford them the means of living when the Bank was closed, and he
was endeavouring to make an arrangement with the Central Board, for
giving them employment in the new sewers. {Hear, hear.) He was
not prepared to say, at present, what would be done with the Bank
itself, but Sir E. T. Smith had made an offer for it, in order to erect
a Citizens’ Theatre, and he regretted not to see that Hon. Member in
the House at the moment, or he would tell him that he must come up a
peg or two with his bid. {Laughter?) He apologised ior troubling
the House at such length, but his absence had caused the current of
business to be dammed up {laughter), and now he had explained, things
would go on in future as right as a trivet and as neat as ninepence.
{Applause.)
Thursday. The Lords sat pro forma, and the new Bishop of St. j
Albans improved the time by preaching them a sermon of much